Figuring out how taxes work can sometimes feel like solving a puzzle! One common question revolves around tax losses and how they interact with a company’s earnings. Specifically, can a company use past tax losses to lower its tax bill even if it’s currently making money (showing a positive Earnings Before Tax, or EBT)? The answer isn’t always a simple yes or no. It’s a bit more complicated and depends on several factors. Let’s break it down.
What Are Tax Losses and Positive EBT?
Tax losses happen when a company’s expenses are greater than its income for a specific tax year. This means the company didn’t make a profit, and they may have actually *lost* money. Positive EBT, on the other hand, means the company *did* make a profit. EBT is what’s left over after a company subtracts its expenses from its income, but before it pays taxes. When a company has positive EBT, it generally owes taxes, but tax losses from earlier years can sometimes change that.

Let’s consider an example to make it clear. Imagine a lemonade stand.
- In year 1, you had a loss of $100 (expenses were higher than the money you made selling lemonade).
- In year 2, you had a profit of $300 (EBT is $300).
The question is, can you use that $100 loss from year 1 to lower the amount of taxes you pay in year 2?
That’s where understanding how tax losses work when there’s positive EBT becomes important.
How Tax Loss Carryforwards Work
Tax loss carryforwards are basically past tax losses that a company can use in the future to reduce its tax liability. Think of it like a coupon you can use later to get a discount on your taxes. The IRS (the government agency that handles taxes) allows companies to “carry forward” these losses to offset future profits. This means that if a company had a loss in a previous year and now has a profit (positive EBT), it might be able to use those old losses to lower the amount of taxes it pays now.
There is an order in which losses are used.
- Net Operating Loss (NOL) from the prior year.
- Capital losses from the prior year.
- Other losses.
This is similar to how a store gives you change, first it pays using the largest amount, then the smaller and finally the smallest.
So, to answer your question directly: yes, in many cases, you can still use tax losses to reduce your tax bill even when you have positive EBT, thanks to tax loss carryforwards.
Limitations on Using Tax Loss Carryforwards
Tax Loss Carryforward Limitations
Even though tax losses can be super helpful, there are limits. The main rule is that, generally, you can’t use the entire amount of tax losses to wipe out your tax bill completely. There’s usually a limit to how much of your taxable income you can offset with these losses. These limits prevent companies from just using old losses to avoid paying any taxes at all. These limits can vary, but often the ability to use the tax loss carryforward is tied to the ability to generate income.
For instance, a rule might limit the use of carryforwards to offset no more than 80% of your taxable income in a given year. This means if your taxable income is $100,000, you can use carryforwards to reduce your taxable income, but only up to $80,000 in losses. Now let’s make a quick table:
Taxable Income | Loss Carryforward | Offset |
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$100,000 | $50,000 | $50,000 |
$100,000 | $100,000 | $80,000 |
$50,000 | $100,000 | $40,000 |
This also means that the government can get its share even if a company made losses in the past.
Expiration of Tax Loss Carryforwards
Tax Loss Expiration
Tax loss carryforwards don’t last forever. The IRS sets a time limit on how long you can use these losses. This time limit can vary, but in the U.S., Net Operating Losses (NOLs) generated in tax years ending before 2018 generally had a carryforward period of 20 years. For NOLs arising in tax years ending after 2017, the carryforward period is indefinite. This means the loss can be used until it’s used up, but it is limited by the use of 80% of the taxable income. It’s like having a coupon that expires – if you don’t use it by the expiration date, you lose it.
The rules surrounding tax loss carryforwards can be complex and have evolved over time. Keeping track of these rules is vital to making sure you aren’t missing out on reducing your tax burden.
To keep track of all this, here are some important reminders:
- Know the year the loss occurred.
- Know the applicable rules for the year.
- Use the tax losses efficiently.
Impact of Ownership Changes
Changes of Ownership
If a company experiences a significant change in ownership, the rules surrounding its ability to use tax loss carryforwards can get complicated. This is to stop people from buying companies just to use their old tax losses. For example, if more than 50% of a company’s stock changes hands, it can trigger what’s known as a “change in ownership.” This change can limit how much of the old tax losses the company can use in the future.
This rule is there to prevent something bad for the IRS. Imagine a business with huge losses, and someone decides to buy it just to use those losses to offset their own future profits. That’s not fair, so the government puts in place the rules that protect it from this type of practice.
This process is not simple and is usually handled by tax professionals. It is very important to keep good records. Let’s look at the impact of ownership changes more closely.
- 50% or more change in ownership.
- Section 382 limitation.
- Continuity of business.
- Increase tax liability.
Specific Industries and Rules
Industry Specifics
Different industries might have slightly different rules or considerations when it comes to using tax losses. For example, the rules for banks, insurance companies, or farming businesses could differ from the general rules. This is because each industry has its own unique way of making money, expenses, and risk profile. The IRS knows this and adapts to these different situations.
Let’s say you have a pizza place versus a tech company. The pizza place will have different costs, like flour and cheese, while the tech company might have employee salaries and software licensing fees. The government realizes this and makes different rules for those different businesses.
One example is the entertainment industry. Here, many different costs arise. Here are some examples:
- Production Costs.
- Marketing Costs.
- Distribution Costs.
- Licensing Costs.
This is why it’s essential to research the specific tax rules that apply to your company or industry.
State and Local Tax Considerations
Other Taxes
Federal taxes are not the only taxes a company needs to think about. States and local governments also have their own tax laws and regulations. Tax loss carryforward rules can vary from state to state and local jurisdiction. Some states might have different rules on how long you can carry forward losses, or they may have different limits on how much you can offset your income.
It’s like different countries having different rules of the road. The U.S. has the federal tax laws, but each state (like California, New York, or Texas) might have their own set of rules. Local governments, like cities or counties, can also have their own taxes. This is why it is super important to know the state and the location where the business is located.
These variations mean you have to keep track of different tax rules based on where your business operates.
- Each state can have different tax codes.
- Each city or county can have different tax codes.
- This will be a major component in the tax filing process.
Seeking Professional Advice
Professional Tax Help
Taxes can get tricky, so it’s usually a good idea to ask a tax professional for help. A tax advisor, like a certified public accountant (CPA) or a tax attorney, understands all the complicated tax rules. They can provide specific advice based on your company’s unique situation. They can help you figure out how to use tax losses effectively while following the rules. They can also keep you from making mistakes that could cost you money.
This is similar to going to a doctor when you’re sick. Tax professionals have specialized knowledge and experience in the tax field, just like a doctor has specialized medical training. Tax pros are there to help you. They can keep you compliant and make sure you are taking advantage of every tax benefit that is available to you.
Here is what a tax professional can provide.
Service | Description |
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Tax Planning | Develop strategies |
Tax Return Preparation | Prepare taxes |
Tax Compliance | Stay compliant |
They can save you a lot of headaches and even money in the long run!
In conclusion, the answer to the question “Can You Still Use Tax Losses When You Have Positive EBT?” is generally yes, but with a lot of “ifs,” “ands,” and “buts.” Understanding tax loss carryforwards, the limitations, potential ownership changes, and industry-specific rules is essential. Remember that seeking professional advice is always a smart move to navigate the complexities of taxes and make the most of your tax situation while staying on the right side of the law.